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Step Counters & Moon Shots: How We Push Each Other To Rise

• TEA Sisters- Tracy, Kerri, Eryn, Mary • Season 6 • Episode 6

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The journey between merely surviving and authentically thriving often comes down to one critical element: intention. What separates showing up at work from excelling at your career? What transforms routine goal-setting into genuine personal growth? 

In this thought-provoking episode, we dive deep into the relationship between intentions and goals, uncovering how they work together yet serve distinct purposes in our growth journey. Intentions represent our why—the feelings, beliefs, and visions that precede action—while goals provide the structured pathway to achievement. Without aligned intentions, even well-crafted goals can feel hollow or imposed, lacking the emotional investment needed for sustained motivation.

We explore frameworks like SMART goals and James Clear's philosophy from "Atomic Habits" that "we do not rise to the level of our goals; we fall to the level of our systems." This perspective shifts focus from outcomes to processes, suggesting that small 1% daily improvements in our systems can lead to remarkable progress without overwhelming changes.

The conversation takes fascinating turns through manifestation practices—how visualizing success and maintaining positive self-talk can program our brains to recognize opportunities—and the complex dynamics of accountability partnerships. We share personal experiences with step-counting challenges that illustrate both the motivational power and potential pitfalls of external accountability.

Perhaps most inspiring is our discussion of Big Hairy Audacious Goals (BHAGs)—those moonshot aspirations that seem almost impossible yet inspire collective action and innovation. Like JFK's declaration about going to the moon, these ambitious visions can unlock creativity and determination we didn't know we possessed.

Ready to transform your approach to goal-setting? Listen now, and discover how to align your intentions with your actions to truly rise with purpose.

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Kerri:

Welcome back to Spill the Tea. Today we are continuing on our journey to talk about rising and the various aspects it takes to rise, and we're talking about rising with intent, and so, before each episode, I try to send everybody some questions so we can be thoughtful, and one of the first questions that I read was about goal setting and intention, and is there a difference between the two? And so I wanted to. I had some thoughts about it, but I wanted to pose a question to you guys and see what you think like one is part of the other, or the precursor to right.

Tracy:

So you have to have the intent prior to the action. So the intent feels like the thought and then the goal setting feels like the action that comes after the thought. So whatever your process is, it would start with intent.

Eryn:

Before you set a goal, you have the intention, you have the initial thought of oh, this might be something that I want to do, and the goal itself is how am I going to do this?

Mary:

I agree, I would have said the same things.

Kerri:

That's kind of what I was thinking. I was feeling like goal setting is really what you like, what you said. Trace is the action. But I feel like the intention is like the feeling. I think intention is about the feelings, Like when I, even when I think about the goal setting process, like, yeah, you want to achieve these things, but I feel like there's a feeling attached to that achievement. That is really what you're looking for.

Eryn:

And maybe even a vision.

Mary:

So when I think of an intention, I'm imagining myself doing the thing that is tied to the goal and the steps that I will take to get there.

Kerri:

I can see both of those like feel that feeling of a goal like I don't know so intensely.

Tracy:

Achievement yeah, I think too that multiple people could have the same goal and with a different intent. You're going to take a different pathway to achieve the goal, and I guess you could even follow the same steps, but if the intent were different, the outcome may be different too.

Eryn:

And the goal also. People reach goals in different ways too, yeah, but we could all have the same goal and get to it in a different way, which is cool in and of itself.

Tracy:

So I think, with rising with intention, so I think with rising with intention, purpose of this title is that the intent is to rise, is to grow. Not all goals are growth oriented or in a growth mindset. I guess it depends on how you've been taught to goal set, goal achieve. I was going to ask what kind of a goal then would not be a a growth outcome. I think a goal set by somebody, not for you, that you would, are, you aren't invested in, or a team goal, a goal that you're, that's imposed on you. I also think a goal to survive.

Eryn:

A goal to survive doesn't necessarily inherently mean growth, like going to a different step right. My goal today could be to go to my job, but it could also be to go to my job and excel.

Tracy:

One of those is to rise and one of those is to survive. Yeah, that makes sense.

Kerri:

So there's another question that was in here that asked how do you clarify your goals and ensure that they reflect what you truly want? So this trace if someone had imposed a goal on you, you still have the ability to ensure that they reflect what you truly want, not what this continues to ask, not what society or others expect of you. So how do you manage a goal when it maybe is placed on you? Still hold on to your own beliefs and not what is expected or what society places on you.

Mary:

I think it's even more challenging because it's not something that you're invested in, and so I suppose if it's work related and you need to comply, I'll be forced to figure out a way, but I feel like I probably may not be as successful at it because I'm not as invested in it.

Tracy:

Yeah, I think that I have to deal with my frustration first, before I can even get started in the project, to deal with the fact that I'm irritated, whereas the person imposing had just simply modified their process to get me invested first and make it my goal. That, would you know, would have been a better outcome. If I don't have the benefit of that, I do try to flip it. I do try to see if there's something that I can grow from within it. Is there a piece of it that is going to be a good nugget for me that I can really focus my energy on, so that it's not or it doesn't feel like a complete and total waste of my time.

Eryn:

I think that's great. I was a public health undergraduate when I did my undergraduate degree and we talked a lot about setting achievable goals. So goals that you know I could say I want to fly to the moon tomorrow, but you know, is that achievable? Is that something that I can do or is that a goal that maybe I should change? So we talked a lot about it, you know, from a public health perspective, and we talked about SMART goals, and I'm just pulling up the framework for SMART goals.

Tracy:

Oh, we can all tell you that, yeah, we can.

Mary:

All three of us teach it.

Eryn:

It's specific, measurable, achievable, relevant and time-bound. So it's a social work construct also, but I use it a lot in my daily life.

Tracy:

It's also one that you've probably been taught since I was a child.

Eryn:

Yes, but if you want to talk about the specific framework, that's why I was pulling it up.

Eryn:

So it's kind of like a who, what, how much, how, why, when, right, so I even talk about it. You know, in the healthcare field too, with patients, you know what's a health goal for yourself and is this an attainable goal, and how can we work to make it more attainable for you, and is this truly what you want to do? That's kind of what we were just touching on, too. Is this something that aligns with your beliefs? Is this something that aligns with your beliefs.

Kerri:

So Trace something you said before. You said I wish that they would have brought you on board first, like got your buy-in to whatever it is, and so one of the other parts of the conversation it suggested we have today is talking about accountability and accountability partners, and I was thinking about that and really in those cases when maybe you can't align, somebody didn't get your buy in first, I think you know it always does come back to your own accountability to yourself. Even when you do think of something like maybe I want to start working out and I call, I call Mary and say Mary, I need your support, I want to start working out 20 minutes a day. Mary might support me and be a real pain in my you know what for a while and then I might slack off. She's more likely to give me a break eventually. Just be like okay, right.

Mary:

Yeah, give yourself grace.

Tracy:

And so I feel like grace, but if you ask her to follow through, she follows through.

Kerri:

Yeah, I know she would, but I'm just saying I feel like the bottom line is having that accountability with yourself to you know, like okay, this is my job and find a way. Even when you want accountability from someone, you really have to find it in yourself.

Mary:

That's the bottom line for me you really have to find it in yourself.

Mary:

That's the bottom line for me anyway.

Mary:

I have a sticky on my computer monitor at work that says start with the why, and that comes from a leadership concept of getting the other person's buy-in to basically your directive or, in this case, setting a goal for your team that perhaps you're going to be met with some resistance.

Mary:

And I think if I'm doing that to myself and having an internal monologue about if I'm been given a directive, I'm probably going to explore well, why is this important? And ask my supervisor can you tell me what the bigger picture is? Because I'm not seeing it, but just being willing to be curious about it and explore that so that I can understand my role in this whole thing. Oh, it's because we are grant funded and we need to stay relevant in these really troubling times so that if we have to ask the county to bail us out then they'll say they're an important department and because they do X, y and Z. So that sticky just reminds me of. I need to approach these fantastic project ideas that I have from starting with why, why it's important and why my idea is really good.

Eryn:

Which really touches on motivation. What is the motivation behind something?

Tracy:

So I think even with the why, though, before we move into the what. It's really easy to frame that in terms of work. Right, it's really easy to frame smart goals in terms of work, and it's really easy to frame finding the mission and understanding intent. But when you have to transfer those skills over to your own personal life, sometimes it's not an easy transfer. Sometimes it's not something you practice at home, it's something that you do because that's a work skill, but then are you doing the same thing? Are you making smart goals at home? Are you understanding the intent? Carrie, you're so good at it that you're having a hard time understanding.

Kerri:

I am.

Tracy:

I'm sorry You're so congruent as a human.

Kerri:

I'm like hmm, I just am who I am. I show up, like me, whether I'm at work or I'm like. I just am who I am. I show up, like me, whether I'm at work or I'm at home. I try to.

Tracy:

You use your tools in both places, which is beautiful, thank you.

Mary:

I don't think it's everybody.

Mary:

There is a book that I revere called Atomic Habits by James Clear, and he says that we do not rise to the level of our goals. We fall to the level of our systems. And so a lot of times I'm thinking systems, and that is how can I arrange whatever? Whatever the goal is Okay, so I'm losing time in the morning, and so I need to look at my system in the morning to see where I can gain time and when I lose time. And so I implemented picking my outfit out the night before, and that frees a lot of the minutes in my morning, and so it's so good, I'm so indecisive.

Eryn:

I'd change my mind in the morning Like what was I thinking last night?

Tracy:

That's funny I dress how I feel and I can't decide that the night before it makes packing really hard, because you're like what am I going to feel like on Tuesday next week?

Eryn:

And that's why I pack 15 pairs of underwear for a four day trip.

Mary:

Because what if I pee?

Tracy:

myself three times in a day.

Mary:

So in your household. In your mind, you would be choosing a different thing to free up your minutes in the morning, right.

Eryn:

Because you know yourself.

Mary:

So I'm not struggling with changing my mind. The only time I do that is if I have the weather incorrect and what I chose does not line up with how warm or cold it's going to be in the office.

Tracy:

Mary, are outfits in your closet already put together?

Eryn:

No, they're assembled by color, though, you know I think it's a personality difference too, because my husband is very similar. He is like my weatherman he always knows what the weather is going to be Me, I wear clothes, I walk outside and I'm like, oh, it's raining. You know, like, for me it's just different, but I feel good in this and I think that goes to show people's motivations. You know, yeah, what is important to some people may not be as important to others, and you know, our goals are, even though it's the same, it's to get to work.

Kerri:

The way that we get to work is different and so in this case, like Mary, what you're talking about, like gaining more time in the morning. The outfit thing wouldn't work for me, but getting up earlier would Like. That's fine, I'll get up earlier so I can take the 30 minutes to be comfortable to go to work.

Eryn:

You know what I mean. Or packing my lunch the night before instead of the day of. That sort of thing would be possible for me too.

Mary:

Yeah, I could do lunch I do not choose that, because I make a sandwich and the bread would be dry, you know.

Tracy:

so that doesn't work for me and I do okay with that, me too.

Mary:

Tried that and I don't like it and I used to do overnight oats and then I decided you know I don't like or I like it. It's fine, but I like warm oatmeal more than I like cold oatmeal. So I tried that for a while. But nonetheless, it's not about specifically me, it's the content of how I got there that I looked at my systems I'm always looking at my systems to see where I can make the change, and James Clear in this book says that make a 1% change. So a goal that feels enormous. You just break it down where. What can I do? That would be a 1% improvement. And then if I make a 1% improvement every day, then at the end of 30 days I've made a 30% improvement.

Tracy:

I'm not sure how the math works.

Mary:

But yes, one percent every day for 30 days adds up to 30.

Kerri:

That math is totally mapping and they say it only takes 21 days to form a habit. Right so right, they do that one thing same author yeah all right, where are we going from here?

Tracy:

well, I just think that what mary's talking about is skill development, and I think skill development is one of those things that helps you intentionally rise. So she's looking for what her systems look like, but I think that also you could improve other skills to rise intentionally.

Eryn:

Right, Like efficiency is a great way to put it too. What am I doing that's inefficient? What am I doing that is efficient? What can I change? You know that is attainable. The 30% in 30 days? I do agree, Mary. I think that that math is correct, but I'm not a good math person, so don't double check me. Anybody who's listening. But I agree.

Tracy:

30% of what, though? Did you need 30% to change Like? Is it 1% of that's what I'm saying? 1% a day, Okay, but it's not 100% scale.

Eryn:

Then it'd be 31%, right? I did want to bring up manifesting and how you know we use that term a lot. Now I feel like that's a newer thing that we've been using when we talk about goal setting or, you know, setting intentions. So I want to hear what that means for you guys when, you like, talk about manifesting or goal setting or setting intentions.

Tracy:

I look at manifesting as a fancy way to imagine something really cool that you want to bring into your life it's that, that vision, it could be the feeling, just like just what Carrie was saying in the beginning.

Mary:

She senses it as a feeling, see it as a vision, and to me it's also the self-talk, because I positive self-talk of myself achieving it or doing it or whatever. Whatever it is that I have arrived and it's happened, and so that's the self-talk as opposed to. I don't think it'll happen if I have negative talk.

Kerri:

I was just going to say that's the like. I agree with everything you guys said. I think the other piece, that is, it is the self-talk, it's the believing you deserve whatever it is, or believing you're capable of whatever it is. There's some sort of belief in there and, trace, like you said, if I'm going to have to believe something, I want to believe the most beautiful outcome possible. So I try to go there.

Tracy:

I think there's something, too, too, about putting it where you can see it. So it's a visual thing and it's a, it's a constant reminder. So I think that imagining a a great thing and manifesting is different, because you put the work in by reminding yourself of this is the reality I'm creating, this is what I'm, what I'm working towards.

Eryn:

Right and putting. I think about, you know, putting energy into the universe. You know I want this to happen for myself and I think manifesting and goal setting kind of go hand in hand for me. You know I frequently will talk about I'm manifesting this, you know, for my co-worker or my friend who wants this to happen too. So it's also a sense of support. I see them hand in hand.

Tracy:

Yeah, I think it was more metaphysical before and now it's more of like a mainstay process or way of talking about achieving or focusing on or believing in yourself or a goal.

Eryn:

And believing in others and others. Yeah, yeah.

Kerri:

One of the things, trace, I heard you just say that it's one of the things I'm working on. So I'm not like trying to call you out, but in like being so interested in manifesting, like you said, or something I'm working on. Like if you concentrate on the fact that you're working on it, what they say in manifesting is you'll always be working on it oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, I guess you're focusing on.

Tracy:

You have it yes so it's.

Kerri:

It's hard. You catch yourself in that and I try to switch it like nope, it's this other. You know that's already got it.

Tracy:

You know what it's like when I come to you with one of those ridiculously big ideas. I already see it, so I already believe it. So that's not something I've ever like. The same way that you don't have to like bring work skills home because they're just skills for you, because I think up there. But I do that with people too, like I see them in their, their best, the best version of themselves too, and just believe it.

Eryn:

Sometimes I want you to talk about um b-hags, because I do remember that from tab from our teen advisory board. I don't remember smart goals so much from you guys, but I guess that probably is just a framework you've instilled as in as a child. But I do remember BHAGs big, very audacious goals right.

Kerri:

Yes, I just want to give you a little side note. Erin, the SMART goals and when you work in human services, like any training you go to, they bring up SMART goals and you just start to cringe because everybody says it with this big excitement, like it's this new, fresh concept, and you're just like don't tell me what it means

Eryn:

again.

Tracy:

Right, it's just how you do it if you weren't doing it before. Let's have that training. What were you doing before? Right?

Eryn:

Just picking something out randomly.

Kerri:

Anyway, a BHAG. Sorry, I just wanted to let, I'm just kidding.

Tracy:

That's how you feel, feel your feelings.

Eryn:

Let's reel this back in. Can we talk about BHAGs? Because I feel like there's something that everybody can remember that maybe aren't as cringeworthy as SMART goals.

Tracy:

Yes, a BHAG is a big, hairy, audacious goal and the best way to remember those is the same way that I taught you when JFK did his speech and said we're going to go to the moon in the next decade Decade. He says it funny and he talks about going to the moon and it's also called a moonshot. And they didn't have anything prepared to be able to make it to the moon. They didn't have the materials, they didn't have the vehicles and he just put the goal out there. It was ridiculous, it was audacious, it was ginormous. And then I think Mary last week talked about when he went to NASA and was visiting to see how their progress was. He asked the janitor what his job was and, based on the big, hairy, audacious goal, he was able to say I'm helping us go to the moon. He didn't say he was cleaning the floors. So that is a BHAG, Thank you for sharing.

Eryn:

I think that they're kind of opposite of each other. I mean, I love a BHAG and you just think about all the small things, even the janitor, who does play a crucial role in that, and you know, same goal, different way of getting there.

Kerri:

Do you think that getting to the moon is the?

Tracy:

intention or the goal. Well geez, I guess you'd have to think in his. I think his intention might have been to bring people together. He could have done anything right, could have come up with any kind of audacious.

Kerri:

I mean, I don't know enough about history to give what I'm just going back to the thinking about the difference between goals and intention, I feel like when we talk about goals, we talk about steps and I feel like when there's an intention, there's maybe a bigger, higher level thing, higher level of commitment.

Tracy:

So if we had a group group goal but we hadn't talked about the intention, it would just be easy not to put feeling to it, just check it off like checklist and I keep coming back to, and people have different intentions too, yeah, and some are positive and some are negative right, because maybe going to the moon for him, tracy, perhaps suggesting that it was to bring people together, but maybe for others it was to be the first, because they were racing against Russia to put the first American on the moon.

Mary:

So same goal, different intention.

Tracy:

It would have also been a distraction from some of the other things that he was some of his extracurriculars.

Kerri:

And that janitor. And that janitor could have been in the wrong mindset when we talk about like the manifesting thing, and he could have said I'm here because some guy thinks he's going to go to the moon Like it wasn't even possible. Right, he's still there doing a job we've been talking a lot about.

Eryn:

You know positive intentions and positive manifesting. The same thing goes for negative intentions, and you know alternative motives yeah, I think you can still rise through nefarious means. That's a whole nother conversation we are not diving into today I can't talk current events.

Kerri:

My therapist has heard enough about current events and to our audience members. You're welcome, we're not going there, we go there. We won't come back, not on this podcast.

Tracy:

I need a different one, Swinging it back. I think a lot of it has to do with making sure that you're in a positive state of mind and holding yourself accountable to that.

Kerri:

So what do you guys think about it did talk about like mentors and accountability partners and those types of things. How do you see them like as useful? Like when I was thinking about it, I was was thinking I do think that role models are useful. Um, I don't know how I really feel about an accountability partner. I've never felt like an accountability partner has been something great for me me neither.

Tracy:

I was just gonna say that I was asked to be a mirror ring partner for somebody in a class that felt like the most uncomfortable thing to be asked to do with somebody I didn't know Was everybody doing it.

Tracy:

Yes, but it was in terms of what the class was related to. But it was too vulnerable, like if Mary and I were, were, or any of you on here were my accountability partner. You know me well enough to feel comfortable to talk to me about that. Having some stranger tell you that that you're out of line is like one. Who do you think? You are, and two, I don't feel comfortable. I don't even know if I agree with your values. I don't know who you are. That's weird. That's why.

Kerri:

I don't, I don't know who you are. That's weird. That's why I don't. I don't really feel like accountability partners work and I feel bad even saying that. But I just feel like, in the scheme of things, unless it's someone that you like, implicitly trust, with your best interest at heart, people are not going to have hard conversations with you that say no, no, no, you said you wanted me to be here and this is what you wanted me to do, and now you're backing out and then like, explore the like, why are you backing out part with someone they're more apt to be like okay, well, if you don't want to do this anymore you know what I mean.

Tracy:

So, yeah, I think it's a paid service. I think that in those instances where it's been successful, it's been like a therapist or a leadership coach, somebody that I'm like okay, I really need to explore this and I need somebody that's going to push me to explore it. But I wouldn't want to put that pressure, one on my friendships, unless, I guess, unless I couldn't afford a therapist and one of my friends is a therapist, I don't know, maybe in that case.

Eryn:

At the end of the day, it's uncomfortable, I do think though in good friendships that happens more often.

Kerri:

Sure, in healthy ways. I like you I don't want to put that on any of my friends like either. Like because I know that ownership lies within me in the end, like I'm the one who's gonna do it, or I'm not, and you hounding me because I asked you to probably isn't helpful well, I think that's what I mean, more so than resent.

Eryn:

I would never resent somebody. I asked to do something for me, but then it's like it creates this power dynamic within a relationship that you don't want Like. You do want to be there for your friends, you do want to provide support when they ask for it, but I do think that there's a line, like a very gray line of is this support? Is this in my best interest, or? You know? I think that you touched really well on that, Carrie.

Mary:

I think if you set up parameters and just agree that it doesn't have like this is what it looks like, this is what it doesn't look like, and when I'm done I'll let you know. You know something like that, I think. Or it just doesn't work for you because that's just not something that you would gravitate to, to choose somebody to check in with you and see how you're doing, cause maybe that's just all it is.

Tracy:

Yeah, if it was something less personal. That class that was a very that was a very vulnerable personal thing. But, um, like if it was something less personal, because that class that was a very vulnerable personal thing, but like if it was making sure I, I don't know, like when we were doing the Fitbits, everybody had a Fitbit. We were like competing against each other. I love that. That was kind of an accountability thing.

Mary:

I'm doing that right now. Oh my gosh, it's so much fun, but I see where we could be going down a path of judgment. It also could become toxic.

Mary:

Yeah, so at work people signed up to do a step challenge, and so Carl and I are doing it. And then they randomly paired us up with people to make teams. And so Carl's paired up with a friend of mine and I had said I had reached out to her and said, oh, you're so lucky because Carl just in his regular day puts in 10,000 steps and I, for instance, have to actually get on the elliptical to achieve that goal. And I said to Carl you know so-and-so, that's my friend. She's like seven months pregnant, she is outpacing him, she, I think she's a runner. And so today she has like 30,000 steps and we're back at 10,000 steps. But then there's this other guy that's getting 30,000 a day. So we're like, who is this guy? He must, you know. And so it's. There's this like negative banter going on with other work people. Carl and I are like laughing about it, saying he must have it attached to a dog. There is no way that people can get 30,000 steps. Oh, and he, he gets 15,000 steps before 5am.

Tracy:

What is he doing? Oh, he must be running. Have you wait, did you?

Kerri:

guys ever Fitbit with Laura? Oh my gosh. Yeah, she gets a ton of steps because she's waitressing, she's on her feet all day.

Tracy:

If you have a desk job, you're screwed. Yeah, but, and she won't lose.

Mary:

I am.

Tracy:

Yeah, she refuses to lose.

Eryn:

And there's also a sense of like embarrassment too, that like comes in with it too, at least on my end. Like, especially if I have a bad day and I'm like, oh, I'm stuck at my desk all day and you know I can't get this exercise. And then you look and you're like, oh man, like Mary has 40,000 steps from going to Disney World or something you know, I don't know. There's a healthy sense of accountability, you know, when we're like, talking about staying active, I think there's a healthy sense, but there's also an unhealthy sense and, like I said, that's a gray line.

Kerri:

Yeah, I remember when I did that challenge, of course I wanted to win. I remember when I did that challenge, of course I wanted to win. Also, I do remember just having a goal for myself that I would try to win on the days that I had I could. But I my real goal for myself was to get the 10,000 steps. Today that's what the American Heart Association recommends everybody gets and so that was always my goal. If you get to 10,000, great. Anything over that personally is like a super win.

Mary:

Even yesterday, carl comes upstairs from the basement and he's a little out of breath and he's like I was just doing the elliptical. I'm like what are you doing? You already had your 10,000 steps. He's like, well, I had to get ahead of Margaret. So it does drive you to maybe put in more than what I would be doing if I were not doing it.

Tracy:

For sure, thank goodness. I feel like I want to get our Fitbits back out and try it again. I have an Apple Watch. I have an old Apple Watch.

Kerri:

It tracks steps. I don't know if you can do a challenge with it. I've never done that.

Eryn:

You can do it on an Apple.

Mary:

Watch too. I'm doing a free app called Step Up.

Tracy:

Does it connect to your Fitbit or your watch your pedometer?

Mary:

It's supposed to, but I haven't figured it out yet.

Kerri:

And does it allow you to see where everyone else is yes that's the creepy part too.

Mary:

We're looking for the weekend. We're like, hmm so, and so isn't doesn't even appear to be out of bed yet. Such judgment. And of course I'm looking for my teammate.

Kerri:

I'm like so see, that kind of accountability kind of partner like doing, doing that, like if you saw that I got x number of steps that I don't mind, like okay, yep, that's what I did, like there's no going back on it, that for me like makes me feel like I'm just keeping myself honest, like I know that I only took 3000 steps today, and now everyone else knows it too.

Mary:

I'm ranked 44.

Tracy:

So is your whole group using the same app? Yeah, yeah and some have pictures.

Mary:

Carl's like I should get a picture. I'm not going to do that. Oh yeah, carl is fifth right now.

Eryn:

Whoa.

Tracy:

And.

Mary:

Margaret is second. That's his partner.

Tracy:

Nice, nice.

Mary:

Nice, and the guy that works for the DA. It must be his off day, I think. He's off the app. But how many? Oh yeah, there's like 50 of us.

Kerri:

Erin, it did list beehives in this list too.

Tracy:

It did have big, hairy, audacious goals it did.

Kerri:

It says can you set big, audacious goals? It left out the hairy part, Without overwhelming yourself or feeling discouraged if you don't hit them right away right, and we talked about being overwhelmed or, you know, disappointed or those sorts of things.

Eryn:

So I think you know that's great.

Kerri:

I was thinking when I was just read that question, though I was gonna say I think kind of for myself, usually when I like, let's take. When I found out I was diabetic, I knew I had to cut out sugar and I tried to follow a keto diet. I still do for the most part. I never get it right. I never do everyday perfect. Some days I do, but some days I don't. I do have like that's the realistic part in the SMART goal. I do have a realistic goal that there are days when I want a freaking piece of bread and get out of the way. Yeah and I'm going to have it, but I'm not.

Kerri:

I'm also not going to like feel like I failed if I do. You know what I mean. Like that is my yeah.

Tracy:

That's the realistic part.

Kerri:

All right. So who wants to tell us how to make tea Me Okay.

Eryn:

Erin, you're up. Okay, I want all of our listeners to make tea this week. I would like them to think of a big, hairy, audacious goal, and I want them to think about the work that will go into that goal and what smaller goals they can make that are more attainable, smart, measurable. You know all of the qualities, and I also want you to talk to your girlfriends and talk about what holding each other accountable looks like for your individual relationship and if that's something that would help you, I think that's a great idea to you know. Hold yourself accountable and support your friends. Anybody. Have anything to add?

Kerri:

I think I just want to add, to also think about how you role model those things.

Tracy:

Yeah, what a fun way to rise this weekend.

Kerri:

All right, I think we did it.

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